map - Friday, May 03, 2002, 9:41 AM ----------------------------------- MELANGE> MELANGE> autologin: /nick BigBong 0 0 MELANGE> +OK [user] >> Melange Chat Server (V.2.02 B2,Drugsense Build), April 2002 Welcome ! (Type /HELP for a list of commands) [5, joe]: high BB [8, BigBong]: webgreetings all ;O)--~ [7, Marc]: I am stupefied! [8, BigBong]: hey marc, sorry i mist you twice last night [7, Marc]: Ok BB [7, Marc]: phone [3, observer]: yes Will ... http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/hitler/hitler.html [7, Marc]: brb [3, observer]: quote hitler lie [8, BigBong]: it seemed every time me went afk for a short stretch you'd log in [0, Jo-D_radio]: anyone know how to pronounce: VANG PAO [0, Jo-D_radio]: > [3, observer]: High BB ! [3, observer]: quote hitler lie [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of the nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously or intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds [4, DrugSenseBot001]: renders them a more easy prey to the big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell a big one." -- Adolph Hitler [3, observer]: :-) [8, BigBong]: prolly true of 20th century germanic nation masses [7, Marc]: back [4, DrugSenseBot001]: wb Marc [2, Will]: that Richard Miller quote is awesome! [7, Marc]: I prefer Denis Miller on HBO [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "The first casualty of war is truth." -- Rudyard Kipling [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 7:44:46 PM ET ] [5, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: i DM on monday night football [3, observer]: i recommend reading Richard Miller's book Drug Warriors & Their Prey ... and also The Case for Legalizing Drugs [8, BigBong]: think him amongst the wittiest comedian on the planet [8, BigBong]: or rather amongst the more cerebral >> User 0001 comes in from 209-128-98-142.bayarea.net at line 9. >> [9] 0001 is called mike now. [3, observer]: wb Mike :-) [2, Will]: Lady Astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: Winston: _____ ? [8, BigBong]: and if i were your husband i would drink it [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: yep [3, observer]: heheheehe [7, Marc]: Winston B. Churchill [9, mike]: hi all [7, Marc]: High Mike [2, Will]: Winston: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." [8, BigBong]: winston you are drunk. >> User guest comes in from seg1d-202-218.ezl.com at line 10. [8, BigBong]: yes madam, and you are ugly, but in the morning i shall be sober [2, Will]: lol [3, observer]: lol [5, joe]: lol [7, Marc]: lol [7, Marc]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Marc is ready, anyone else? >> [10] guest is called derek now. [10, derek]: and ready [9, mike]: hi derek [10, derek]: hey all [7, Marc]: High Derek [7, Marc]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [2, Will]: At the end of the war, before the election that he lost in 1945, The Times of London prepared an editorial suggesting that he campaign as a nonpartisan world leader and retire gracefully rather soon afterward. The editor first informed Churchill that he was going to make these two points. "Mr. Editor," Churchill said to the first point, "I fight for my corner." And, to the second: "Mr. Editor, I leave when the pub closes." [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [3, observer]: high Derek ! [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :49:12. ]]] [8, BigBong]: even though he was imperialistic colonialistic militarian I jave a soft spot for winston [8, BigBong]: based entire on reading his written words [8, BigBong]: dude had a brain on him [7, Marc]: not like Bush [7, Marc]: lol [9, mike]: yed [9, mike]: yes [0, Jo-D_radio]: wb derek :) [10, derek]: ((Jo-D)) [10, derek]: another long ady ;-( [10, derek]: day [4, DrugSenseBot001]: day is what happens after night [7, Marc]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: Jo-D how about a quick "mardi grass plug" on ds radio? [7, Marc]: bot is sarcastic tonight [3, observer]: night [4, DrugSenseBot001]: night is what day turns into [7, Marc]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time." -- Abraham Lincoln [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 7:51:48 PM ET ] [8, BigBong]: mention the hempbar/bigbong web show, drop a couple of URL';s [7, Marc]: Guess now that everyone is fooled somewhere? [10, derek]: bush is doing a good job at fooling people! [10, derek]: or his self [7, Marc]: Are you in New Zealand Derek? [10, derek]: no, US [2, Will]: here's a good Churchill quote... [8, BigBong]: taling of radio, me am guest on the HEMP hour on Nim FM today [5, joe]: bush has a 98% aproval rating.......because he said so [7, Marc]: ok [7, Marc]: sorry [8, BigBong]: lol, into the talking cupboard [2, Will]: "If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favorable reference to the devil in the House of Commons." [8, BigBong]: hitler was churchills ideal enemy [8, BigBong]: and hitler never really stood a chance [9, mike]: BB are u down under?? [8, BigBong]: luckily [8, BigBong]: nimbin [4, DrugSenseBot001]: nimbin is in full premardigrass freak out mode [8, BigBong]: yep >> User Hobe comes in from 207.144.217.160 at line 11. [11, Hobe]: Hello [8, BigBong]: webgreetings Hobe [3, observer]: high Hobe! :-) [10, derek]: hey hobe [7, Marc]: The land of the m8s [2, Will]: "In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." [5, joe]: high hobe [7, Marc]: Hi Hobe [9, mike]: kewl,,,my friend is there,,a big burley guy named Forrest long hair & bigguy [11, Hobe]: Anything exciting going on? [10, derek]: hey forrest, big dude [10, derek]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: mardigrass [4, DrugSenseBot001]: mardigrass is upon us Richard and I webcamming - ;O)--~ [8, BigBong]: forget mardigrass [4, DrugSenseBot001]: BigBong, I have forgotten mardigrass. [7, Marc]: scanning [8, BigBong]: mardigrass is the biggest cannabis law reform protestival in the southern hemisphere www.nimbinmardigrass.com [3, observer]: _ [8, BigBong]: and as soon as cannabis dave makes it into town to open hempbar door, the web cast will resume [5, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: major obstacle http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR283.shtml [8, BigBong]: nimbin is kinda between lismore and byronbay [8, BigBong]: lots of cloud around [8, BigBong]: absolutely not painting weather [4, DrugSenseBot001]: any bots live there? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: not bot in nimbin, plenty of buts and butts, but. [3, observer]: lol [7, Marc]: ~ [0, Jo-D_radio]: > [3, observer]: A school suspended an 11-year-old girl for drawing two teachers with arrows through their heads, saying the stick figures were more death threat than doodle. [3, observer]: ... Another teacher spotted the doodle in the girl's binder Tuesday and reported it, prompting the three-day suspension. [3, observer]: Becca's parents, Philip and Barbara Johnson, denied the school's contention the drawings were "terrorist threats." [3, observer]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20851-2002May2.html [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [10, derek]: obs, did you get a chance to listen to the whole cd yet? [3, observer]: All but the last few tracks, derek [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [10, derek]: Hobe, what did you think about the tapes? [7, Marc]: I guess panic and overexageration is overempowering politics in the States lately. [3, observer]: Borg rats!! ''Scientists unveil the Ratbot, a robot with whiskers [3, observer]: Rodent with newly developed brain implants and radio backpack ...'' [3, observer]: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=291019 [5, joe]: burp [5, joe]: excuse me [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Organization! Hell! I'm the organization! ... Hell! There ain't no rules around here! We are trying to accomplish some'pn'. -- Thomas Alva Edison (regarding laboratory organization rules) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 8:05:46 PM ET ] [2, Will]: brb... gotta deal with some email [5, joe]: later will [7, Marc]: Bye joe [8, BigBong]: bbbye joe [7, Marc]: Bye Will [8, BigBong]: i mean will [3, observer]: see ya Will [8, BigBong]: wonder how long till they train them ratbots for W.O.D duty? [8, BigBong]: electric drug sniffing rats [10, derek]: with camers's attached to heads! [5, joe]: me still here [8, BigBong]: joe [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is partaking in cannabis as a sacrament, would anyone care to join? [5, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [8, BigBong]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: BigBong is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: Israeli's had dog-bots that had radio packs w/ tv cams ... and explosive charges ... They were used against guerillas in tunnels ... dogs would navigate close to target ... then button would be pushed :-( [10, derek]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: derek is ready, anyone else? [7, Marc]: The question is: Can you say it could be called and exageration that the civil liberties could be taken away in order to protect your security? [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [8, BigBong]: news just in [7, Marc]: ok [8, BigBong]: 6 car police road bl;ock between nimbin and lismore [8, BigBong]: complete with sniffer dogs [7, Marc]: far from me..lol [10, derek]: it stinks anywhere [7, Marc]: Are they coming at your place BB? [3, observer]: only one road in? [8, BigBong]: just what we need a bit of a poke and a reminder cannabis illegal [8, BigBong]: 2 tar roads and 2 gravel back ways [3, observer]: will drive up prices in nimbin itself :-/ [8, BigBong]: nah, all the herb is already in the town [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: ah big supply there [8, BigBong]: road blocks will have a florida bush effect [8, BigBong]: you know police cars on way to polling booths [7, Marc]: Have to go for now. Maybe later. Bye :-) [8, BigBong]: but there is no way 6 cars of police can search a couple of thousand cars [2, Will]: back [4, DrugSenseBot001]: wb Will >> [7] Marc left the chat. [5, joe]: later marc [3, observer]: someone drop lots of dirtweed in the road so that cars about to pass checkpoint mut travel thru dirtweed first [5, joe]: wb will [4, DrugSenseBot001]: cannabis oil contains: p-cymene 0.0004%, melting point 210, antibiotic anti candidal AChE inhib. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 8:12:46 PM ET ] [8, BigBong]: and mardigrass crowd grows as the festival progresses [3, observer]: would cause doggies to sniff the heck out of first few cars by ... then they would be desensitized [8, BigBong]: we already past critical mass, all accomodation booked out [3, observer]: cool ! [3, observer]: THAT'S MY THEORY ... WANNA SEE WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN [8, BigBong]: dudes sleeping everywhere thats out of the rain [3, observer]: oops caps [8, BigBong]: good point obs [2, Will]: the term "mardigrass" doesn't really make much sense... "mardi" is french for "tuesday" [3, observer]: :-} [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [8, BigBong]: lol i will tell every one that [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: still bbbburning the last one [5, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: (finally ... brick stuff w/ little crushed seedes :-/) [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :15:05. ]]] [8, BigBong]: ;O)--~ o o o [8, BigBong]: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [2, Will]: mardi gras = fat tuesday [8, BigBong]: ;O)--~ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.bigbongburgerbar.com/ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Anchorage, Baghdad, Moscow (it is 4:15 there now) [8, BigBong]: grass tuesday [3, observer]: lol [8, BigBong]: on the weekend [8, BigBong]: or is it lawn tuesday? [3, observer]: * listens to Hallucinogen: Twisted [3, observer]: _ [2, Will]: what do you call a stoned eskimo? [2, Will]: baked alaskan [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: what do you call a stoned epileptic? [2, Will]: shake & bake [5, joe]: my dad just told me he ran a car into the highway cones today........the lane goes down to one lane and some kid in a car desided to pass my dad (hes a truck driver).....my dad said he just touched the gas and the cones were flying [2, Will]: lol [3, observer]: :-( [3, observer]: yikes [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Anchorage, Baghdad, Moscow [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, Jo-D_radio]: > [5, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [2, Will]: how do you get a one-armed pothead out of a tree? [2, Will]: pass him a joint [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: set [4, DrugSenseBot001]: set is after ready [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :21:26. ]]] [5, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:21:59. [10, derek]: :-)======~ [3, observer]: tokemaster? [3, observer]: ;p; [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;p; is a right-shifted lol [5, joe]: <----basking in the glory of god [3, observer]: Are Tokemasters even sold anymore? [8, BigBong]: was afk [3, observer]: does anyone know what one is ? [3, observer]: lol [11, Hobe]: :-) [10, derek]: nope [5, joe]: yes [2, Will]: I'm a tokemaster [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: lol [5, joe]: i was at a haed shop yesterday..hmmmmm...i dont remember seeing one [3, observer]: * plays Battlezone [10, derek]: ? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: is ] [2, Will]: you got the retro Atari collection too huh observer? [3, observer]: no ... lol [3, observer]: maim emulator ... original bz roms [8, BigBong]: afk again for a while [5, joe]: i think they have them at a head shop incolumbis ohio...the place is on high street but i dont remember the name [2, Will]: I've got Atari Arcade Classics I & II on cd-rom [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1910 Dr Hamilton Wright, instigator of US anti-narcotics laws, reports that American contractors give cocaine to their black employees to improve their work rate. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 8:26:46 PM ET ] [3, observer]: I had that a while back ... [3, observer]: gave it away [3, observer]: then founf a java BZ game [3, observer]: battlezone [4, DrugSenseBot001]: battlezone is http://www.cyberdyne-systems.co.uk/bz/bzsplash.html ... java browser arcade battlezone done by guy who made original one :-) [3, observer]: doubd* [3, observer]: grr [3, observer]: found* [2, Will]: cool [3, observer]: then ... discovered this mame emulator :-> [2, Will]: mame rocks... I got it too... they just came out with a new version this week. >> [9] mike left the chat. >> User guest comes in from mawiOLD0pool0-a57.madison.tds.net at line 7. >> [7] guest is called ben now. [2, Will]: Hi ben >> User 0001 comes in from ttyF04.hawk.igs.net at line 9. >> [9] 0001 is called LordDeathcon now. [5, joe]: high ben [5, joe]: high ldc [7, ben]: evenin' [10, derek]: hey Ben [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [5, joe]: eeewwww....stinky >> [9] LordDeathcon left the chat. [3, observer]: :-) [5, joe]: gets out the air freshener* [3, observer]: 58000 ... i used to get high scores of like 200000 [3, observer]: sigh [2, Will]: have you had a chance to look at the ACLU brief and the judge's ruling on Marchwinsky v FIA yet Ben? [3, observer]: high ben!! [7, ben]: oops, sorry will. no. can you email me a link? bmasel@tds.net [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [2, Will]: http://www.aclu.org/issues/drugpolicy/cases/Marchwinski%20v%20Michigan/Marchwinski_v_Michigan.html >> User kaptinemo comes in from pool-63.49.129.56.bltm.grid.net at line 9. [2, Will]: hiya kappy [3, observer]: ahoy [5, joe]: high kap [9, kaptinemo]: wow! big crowd tonite! :) [3, observer]: :-) [9, kaptinemo]: hi, all! :) [10, derek]: hey kapt [3, observer]: _ [10, derek]: ;-)=~ [0, Jo-D_radio]: > [7, ben]: Wierd font on that ruling. but looks good for you. very good. [2, Will]: I thought so too, on both points [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1986 Throughout the 80s cocaine use soars in the US, especially among the professional classes. So much so that a 1986 survey estimates that 1 in 11 Americans has used the drug. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 8:40:47 PM ET ] [9, kaptinemo]: well, folks, I need the line to make a call. back soon... >> [9] kaptinemo left the chat. [2, Will]: you know, if you look at drug use by politicians, it's mostly republicans who get caught using cocaine, and mostly democrats who get caught using pot. [8, BigBong]: still afk [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [2, Will]: Al Gore's son was busted in school for possession of marijuana at the age of 13 [7, ben]: little gore is not a politician yet. [2, Will]: I'm sure he will be in the future though [7, ben]: The 1980 Senate Cloakroom scandal is a better example. [2, Will]: yep [7, ben]: Coke: Barry Golwater Jr and John Tower, weed gary hart and ron Dellums. [2, Will]: lol... they bitch about terrorists using the drug trade to finance their activities while the CIA has been doing the same thing for over 50 years. [5, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [3, observer]: yes [1, Trippin]: so has the oil industry [2, Will]: Ollie North: Army colnel, Congressman, cocain dealer >> User observers_bird comes in from user-2ivere9.dialup.mindspring.com at line 9. [9, observers_bird]: [9, observers_bird]: [9, observers_bird]: tweet [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [7, ben]: My 1986 article on contra/Coke was footnoted extensively in the Senate committee report. [2, Will]: Ollie spent $100,000 of our tax dollars on a high-tech security system for his house because Abu Nidal had a contract on him [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 1 [[[ ignition! at T = :52:22. ]]] [5, joe]: got to go foks [5, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:52:43. [5, joe]: later all [9, observers_bird]: squawk! [5, joe]: i'll be bacl later [8, BigBong]: webcam >> User kaptinemo comes in from pool-63.49.124.114.bltm.grid.net at line 12. >> [9] observers_bird left the chat. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: webcam is www.bigbongburgerbar.com/webshow [8, BigBong]: on [5, joe]: later all [3, observer]: see ya joe [5, joe]: i'll be back [5, joe]: peace [12, kaptinemo]: I'm ba-ack :) >> [5] joe left the chat. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: peace joe [3, observer]: wb kapt :-) [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Jurors should acquit, even against the judge's instruction . . . if exercising their judgment with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction the charge of the court is wrong. -- Alexander Hamilton, 1804 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 8:54:46 PM ET ] >> User guest comes in from HSE-Toronto-ppp3488768.sympatico.ca at line 5. [3, observer]: :-) [3, observer]: quote ken kesey [4, DrugSenseBot001]: I believe with the advent of acid, we discovered new ways to think and it has to do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people are so afraid of it? What is it about it that scares people so deeply? Because they are afraid that [4, DrugSenseBot001]: there is more to reality than they have ever confronted. That there are doors that they are afraid to go in and they don't want us to go in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they don't know. And that makes us a little [4, DrugSenseBot001]: out of their control. -- Ken Kesey, instigator of Acid Tests >> [5] guest left the chat. [12, kaptinemo]: a *little*? [3, observer]: heh [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: _ [12, kaptinemo]: hoodwinked minds are easier to control than one that knows most social boundaries are matters of control, not 'concern' [2, Will]: could you imagine what would happen if acid were used as a chemical weapon? one 55 gallon drum of it dumped in the NYC water supply would make the entire city trip its ass off! [12, kaptinemo]: I am sure the idea has been presented before :) [0, Jo-D_radio]: > [3, observer]: bot, leave [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer, I am out of here! [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer, I am going to room: botroom ! >> [4] DrugSenseBot001 opened the new channel Channel 420. [3, observer]: i need to use the phone ... brb [3, observer]: :-} >> [3] observer left the chat. <1> Trippin whispered: High BB! any idea why the hemp bar cam is off? [2, Will]: man, that would be screwed up... people jumping off skyscrapers thinkin they can fly [2, Will]: lol [7, ben]: Asia Times w excellent article on French election debacle http://atimes.com/front/DD03Aa02.html [12, kaptinemo]: @ [11, Hobe]: :-) [7, ben]: Check out "Wild in the Streets" a 60s B movie where they dose DC's water supply. >> User observer comes in from user-uiveqs4.dsl.mindspring.com at line 3. [3, observer]: [3, observer]: :-) >> User DrugSenseBot001 comes in from user-uiveqs4.dsl.mindspring.com at line 4. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: DrugSenseBot001 at your service. [3, observer]: :-} [7, ben]: search "Wild in the Streets" [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking on the net ... [4, DrugSenseBot001]: City of Art's Seattle Street Celebrations [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.speakeasy.org/~docschlk/kich7.htm [4, DrugSenseBot001]: WILD IN THE STREETS [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.geocities.com/wildinthestreets2002/ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Wild In The Streets [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.geocities.com/wildints/presentacion.htm [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Wild in the Streets [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport/wild.html [2, Will]: well gang, I gotta scoot... I sell cat toys at www.go-cat.com and I've got some orders to prep for shipping tomorrow. see ya later [8, BigBong]: okay back at keyboard after setting up cam >> [2] Will left the chat. [8, BigBong]: hempbar web cam is off because dave hasn't arrived yet [8, BigBong]: he having his last premardigrass sleep [8, BigBong]: we go right thru now [8, BigBong]: me had 4.2 hours sleep last night [8, BigBong]: and just the one other car upturned by local stret youth >> [10] derek left the chat. [8, BigBong]: police road block news has put a marvelous hard core cannabist vibe to the grass [3, observer]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. -- Genesis 1:29 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:11:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: only those willing to brave the blockade [7, ben]: "I'm sure my son has a very good reason for paralyzing the country." [7, ben]: [3, observer]: lol [12, kaptinemo]: @ [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] >> User JohnTurmel comes in from HSE-Toronto-ppp3488768.sympatico.ca at line 2. [8, BigBong]: hempbar web cam is on [2, JohnTurmel]: Quick, someone go get Richard, time for spanky, spanky [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Odessa, Aden, Helsinki, Amman, Ankara, Istanbul, Antananarivo, Jerusalem, Riyadh, Athens, Khartoum, Kiev, Beirut, Kuwait City, Sofia, Bucharest, Tallinn, Minsk, Nairobi (it is 4:15 there now) [8, BigBong]: both the big guns of australian cannabis law reform are firing, he said somewhat over dramatically [2, JohnTurmel]: Richard Lake said of John Turmel: After you stacked the deck with your votes, and messed up what could have been an honest poll, you yell censorship because the phony results you created were deleted? And you believe anyone in the media anywhere will care about your claims? [7, ben]: "I'm sure my son has a very good reason for paralyzing the country." [7, ben]: [2, JohnTurmel]: And continued: Oh, I have seen how you moderate this list. How it can take hours, days, for something to post, if it does at all. >> [0] Jo-D_radio left the chat. [8, BigBong]: dint you get closure on this yesterday john? [12, kaptinemo]: well, folks, have to try the phone again. c U all later :) [3, observer]: ¡hasta luego kaptinemo! :-) [8, BigBong]: bye kap >> [12] kaptinemo left the chat. [2, JohnTurmel]: And more: How it can take hours, days, for something to post, if it does at all. How many posts have you censored? Why do so few respond to your rants? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Propaganda must not serve the truth, especially as it might bring out something favorable for the opponent. - Adolf Hitler: Mein Kampf. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:18:13 PM ET ] [2, JohnTurmel]: Didn't I closure on this yesterday, no, I only raised Richard calling me a cheat, not a censor. That I was to do today. Problem? Rather not hear about the things Richard said of me? I can take it to my group? >> List of users in this channel (MAIN [0]) >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> [1] Trippin, group: 0 >> [2] JohnTurmel, group: 0 >> [3] observer, group: 0 >> [4] DrugSenseBot001, group: 0 >> [7] ben, group: 0 >> [8] BigBong, group: 0 >> [11] Hobe, group: 0 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [2, JohnTurmel]: Or was I supposed to relay the adventure how I ducked Alan Young trying to get me arrested and missing? [3, observer]: see: Turmel is a complete wingnut and should be ignored [by Marc Emery] (4/22/2002) http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/www5.4.4/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=prince&Number=253471&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart= [2, JohnTurmel]: I escaped 10 seconds before the arrival of the police. [3, observer]: John ... heckling again? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Odessa, Aden, Helsinki, Amman, Ankara, Istanbul, Antananarivo, Jerusalem, Riyadh, Athens, Khartoum, Kiev, Beirut, Kuwait City, Sofia, Bucharest, Tallinn, Minsk, Nairobi [2, JohnTurmel]: Go read the Emery diatribe and then my response to the Prince of Rot, oops, Pot [3, observer]: naughty naughty [8, BigBong]: thing is this is prolly not a good place to attack richard [2, JohnTurmel]: Heckling isn't what I'd call complaining being called a cheater and a censor. [3, observer]: go heckle the prime minister [2, JohnTurmel]: Or is that okay with you? [8, BigBong]: or fight with him [8, BigBong]: or do any of that stuff [2, JohnTurmel]: This gives me a chance to evaluate your sense of fair play, your sporsmanship. [8, BigBong]: thuis room has always been about harmony and togetherness [3, observer]: yes [3, observer]: Check out Emery's background report [2, JohnTurmel]: Harmony while one guy calls the other a cheat and a censor. You call that harmony, Richard's version? [3, observer]: Maybe Emery has good advice ... just ignore him [8, BigBong]: suggest you move the venue elseweb to email or similar [3, observer]: a [2, JohnTurmel]: Maybe Emery doies. After all, he supported Young's attempt to "ensure that Turmel's motion to invalidate the law did not proceed." [3, observer]: /squelch 2 [3, observer]: would do it ... for example [2, JohnTurmel]: I am really please to find out you guys who are against what I was trying to do. [3, observer]: against sloppy accusations [2, JohnTurmel]: my accusations are pretty good. They're up permanently, no one has complained of them directly. [8, BigBong]: I am not against what you do [8, BigBong]: in any way [3, observer]: sure they are, John [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: I respect richard [2, JohnTurmel]: Do you have anything specific to reproach me otehr than I should take Richard calling me a cheat and a censor more quietly, like you would defend your rights, no doubt. [3, observer]: on this page: "Turmel is a complete wingnut and should be ignored" [by Marc Emery] (4/22/2002) http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/www5.4.4/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=prince&Number=253471&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart= There is also a write up by DaWeedKing [3, observer]: _ [8, BigBong]: and count him as friend worth fighting on same side as [3, observer]: interesting [2, JohnTurmel]: Okay. Go ahead. You know all the criticism. I await your observation. [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: I don't know it all, John [2, JohnTurmel]: And yow many people know that Marc Emery deleted the whole stream about the marijuana party leadership vote when he lost it to me. [3, observer]: still learning things [3, observer]: yowwie [4, DrugSenseBot001]: " . . . [H]uman rights cannot exist without property rights, and . . . the destruction of property rights leads to the destruction of all rights and all freedom." -- Ayn Rand [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:25:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: is that a fact, John? [2, JohnTurmel]: Please go read the Emery diatribe against exemptees and other medpot activists who aren't as rich as he is. [2, JohnTurmel]: Of course, to me, a professional gambler, his bigger bankroll only means he [2, JohnTurmel]: is a bigger piece of tuna to the Great White Shark known around the poker tables of the world as The Professor. [3, observer]: Thank you, John. As a matter of fact, I am reading this file, now: "Turmel is a complete wingnut and should be ignored" [by Marc Emery] (4/22/2002) http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/www5.4.4/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=prince&Number=253471&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart= [2, JohnTurmel]: Anyway, that's what I told emery when I challenged him toface in a poker game. [3, observer]: you, did, did you? [3, observer]: my my [2, JohnTurmel]: Lots of fun making h im and his bankroll back down in public. [2, JohnTurmel]: Is it any wonder he censored his Cannabis Culture forum for the first time? [7, ben]: you play chess for $, John? [2, JohnTurmel]: Election Forum censored by Cannabis Vulture" was the headline of my article [3, observer]: Marc Emery didn't 'censor' this one: "Turmel is a complete wingnut and should be ignored" [3, observer]: (url above) [8, BigBong]: all these names who slur you have no currency in a conversation with 'australian me' [8, BigBong]: the big names in northern hemisphere drug law ref are almost unheard of here [2, JohnTurmel]: Chess doesn't have a random element. Takes pure brains, losers can never get an impression that they are not that bad. They lose all the time. YOu need a random element for losers to win sometimes and then they keep playing. [2, JohnTurmel]: Poker, backgammon, bridge, blackjack, those are the games of skill I have masteredd. [8, BigBong]: I meet special guests in here all the time i never heard of [3, observer]: John ... with an infinite amount of winnings at poker ... one should be able to bankroll a whole party yourself, eh? [8, BigBong]: entire organizations are invisible [2, JohnTurmel]: Who said "infinite [2, JohnTurmel]: What planet are you from? [3, observer]: Oh sorry, John! Did I mis-speak? [7, ben]: too bad. I was hoping for a match. but as you say, "losers can never get an impression that they are not that bad. " [2, JohnTurmel]: and I wanted to bankroll the party in a unique way and they rejected it so I could tell the members who voted agaisnt the goods and services I could have had contributed to the party "Sure did lose a lot of free goodies, but at least you stopped me." [2, JohnTurmel]: infinite is not a valid word in discussing game theory. [3, observer]: Was I discussing game theory? [3, observer]: no [2, JohnTurmel]: Sure I'm probably the best gambler in the world but I need the bankroll to sustain an unlucky losing streak. But with enough of a bankroll, it then becomes almost impossible for me to lose that many number of bets. [3, observer]: LOL [2, JohnTurmel]: You mentioned my infinite winnings should be able to fund the party? [11, Hobe]: kids :-) [2, JohnTurmel]: Did you not? What did you mean by my infinite winnings? [3, observer]: Why are you piddling with us kids, John? You should be at Las Vegas! >> User 0001 comes in from pa-gbg-ts-04-024-197-053-150.charterpa.net at line 0. [11, Hobe]: lol "Tippy Toes Turmell" [2, JohnTurmel]: I'd love to be but I'ave had to spend the past year and a half at my computer writintg up legal cases for 15 people. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: cannabis oil contains: a_terpineol .02%, melting point 217, 218 -- Sedative antibiotic AChE, inhibitor anti oxident anti malarial. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:32:13 PM ET ] [0, 0001]: high trippin, john, ob, bot, ben, BB, hobe >> [0] 0001 is called joe now. [7, ben]: sure i can't get you in a chess match for serious $? [3, observer]: Sure you do, John [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: joe [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is partaking in cannabis as a sacrament, would anyone care to join? [2, JohnTurmel]: And read the article posted by Steven Bacon where one guy found it hilarious having me hopping "from table to table chased by an angry mob." [11, Hobe]: Hi Joe [0, joe]: high hobe [2, JohnTurmel]: I wrote part one of that report and part 2 is on the way but there's just so much and I don't want to give it away. Let me just say that I got two people charge with assault at the meeting, the two who caught me, and a whole bunch of new ones once the video of the meeting gets published. [3, observer]: http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/www5.4.4/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=prince&Number=253471&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart= ==> [3, observer]: ''So he starts snapping pictures and he was objected to. [3, observer]: So he yells for the person that requested no pictures to get the hell out of the room. This indeed hurt the person who had come five hours to be one of the 38 people there those two days. So he snaps again and again and a bigger guy gets up to tell him to stop but he keeps snapping away and yells "call the cops im being assulted" ... [2, JohnTurmel]: That was as camera I was snapping they didin't want me to snap [3, observer]: ... no one was assulting him [3, observer]: He dance across the room high legs a kicken I personally have never seen anyone run like that and now im gonna call him "Tippy Toes Turmell" ...'' [3, observer]: cute [11, Hobe]: >John You don't seem to be a very friendly person. [3, observer]: DaWeedKing wrote that [7, ben]: sure i can't get you in a chess match for serious $? [2, JohnTurmel]: cute, yes, funny, yes, important, yes too [11, Hobe]: It's ok, though. Us heads are pretty tolerant. [2, JohnTurmel]: Imagine the whole mob chasing me to get my camera without realizing that the first guys who catch me get charged. [2, JohnTurmel]: I don't know if I should relate my close call with the OPPolice. [3, observer]: DaWeedKing continues, ''There was a ammendment to keep our leader Marc Boris leader for the next two years and it passed nearly unaminously. [3, observer]: Besides if Boris had called a elections he would have won no problem after Turmells actions over those two days, clearly Mr Turmell you took two "red" pills when it was a two "blue" pill day. ...' [11, Hobe]: Why din't you just quit clicking when asked? [3, observer]: John ... is that true?? [2, JohnTurmel]: So that's why Boris didn't have the advertised elections. He would have beat Turmel anyway. says d [8, BigBong]: white rabbit following time anyone? [3, observer]: Keep those pills straight!! [2, JohnTurmel]: Is what true? [7, ben]: sure i can't get you in a chess match for serious $? [0, joe]: o [4, DrugSenseBot001]: o is for orange nuggies [0, joe]: o [4, DrugSenseBot001]: o is for orange nuggies [0, joe]: o [4, DrugSenseBot001]: o is for orange nuggies >> Your new name is follow-the-white-rabbit (Line 8). [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: DaWeedKing : ''Mr Turmell you took two "red" pills when it was a two "blue" pill day. ...' [8, follow-the-white-rabbit]: into the matrix [2, JohnTurmel]: Not chess. I'm a winner. I also know when not to get into a game. [2, JohnTurmel]: Haven't played chess in 30 years. Poker, Blackjack, Backgammon? >> Your new name is neo (Line 8). [0, joe]: high neo [8, neo]: any one seen any dudes in here who look like hugo weaving? [2, JohnTurmel]: It was an insulting quote, what do you want me to say about it? That I escaped the mob by hopping up on the tables and jumping from table to table out of the room? [3, observer]: Enlighten us, John ... when is it time for you *not* to get in a game? >> Your new name is Morpheus (Line 8). [8, Morpheus]: welcome to the matrix neo [2, JohnTurmel]: I get into a game when I think the odds are in my favor. What criteria would you use? [0, joe]: high morpheus [3, observer]: Hmmm ... [7, ben]: John, perhaps youy should have sensed that the Marijuana Party Leadership fight was a losing game. [8, Morpheus]: me only seen the movie one time so this is about as far as i can stretch this metaphor [2, JohnTurmel]: Before the election, when they had annoucned an election? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Si vous voyez un banquier suisse sauter d'une fenêtre, sautez après lui. Il y a sûrement de l'argent. [If you see a Swiss banker jump out of a window, jump after him. There's bound to be money in it.] --Voltaire [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:39:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: that's an ironic statement coming from one who holds a world record in lost elections [3, observer]: thanks, John ... [2, JohnTurmel]: You'll notice that everyone is upset that I tried to contest an election when they didn't want one. [3, observer]: lol [8, Morpheus]: either that or the hollywood section of my biological data base has been purged to make way for more web stuff [3, observer]: Not everyone ... I'm not upset [3, observer]: hey .. your country >> Your new name is BigBong (Line 8). [3, observer]: run 100 more times for all i care [0, joe]: BB [4, DrugSenseBot001]: BB is a new "Da da." [0, joe]: [3, observer]: contest 'em all [2, JohnTurmel]: Okay, I will be posting the story about how Alan Young almost trappe me into jail and how I hot-footed it out of the room 10 second before the police arrived. [3, observer]: you'll include the part about ''So he starts snapping pictures and he was objected to. [3, observer]: So he yells for the person that requested no pictures to get the hell out of the room. This indeed hurt the person who had come five hours to be one of the 38 people there those two days. So he snaps again and again and a bigger guy gets up to tell him to stop but ...' [3, observer]: Right? [2, JohnTurmel]: I can just imagine what Terry Parker was thinking. He's sitting outside the Ontario Court of Appeal room when I arrive with 10 minutes to go and tells me Alan Young is in the courtroom where our hearing is to be made. [0, joe]: nuggies....big orange nuggies....i like to smoke big orange nuggies [2, JohnTurmel]: What he's doing there after I'd threatened to hospitalize him if he showed up? [0, joe]: oooooooooohhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh [3, observer]: you make threats often? [8, BigBong]: herbs twin, super qwerty is about to be delivered... [3, observer]: no need to answer, John [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: hmmmmm [0, joe]: yiks [0, joe]: lol [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [2, JohnTurmel]: Terry begs me not to be confrontational with the professor and I go into the courtroom. Three minutes later, I'm running out of the court to tell Terry that I think the police have been called and 2 seconds later, the Ontario Provincial Police rush into the courtroom and I exit the back door. Terry must have thought I'd popped the professor but I did beat the police by onlyh a few seconds to ruin my opponent's day. [8, BigBong]: the faithful webcastying unit that I campaigned with on www.peacebus.com in 2001 [0, joe]: i just got a new batch of orange nuggies [0, joe]: and [4, DrugSenseBot001]: and is puffing onoccasiobal spliff [0, joe]: i'm [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [2, JohnTurmel]: So anyway, keep tuned for my latest report on the escape from Osgoode Hall. [3, observer]: _ [2, JohnTurmel]: Gotta go and write it for my regular readers. [3, observer]: go? thanks [3, observer]: John [11, Hobe]: buh bye [3, observer]: see ya [2, JohnTurmel]: bye [4, DrugSenseBot001]: bye bye JohnTurmel >> [2] JohnTurmel left the chat. [3, observer]: :-( [0, joe]: wow [0, joe]: hmmmmm [3, observer]: I might believe something he says ... but i want lots of other sources [0, joe]: whats he trying to prove?? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "...in it's natural form, marijuana is the safest therapeutically active substance known to man." -- DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young 1989 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:46:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: yo no se [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :47:37. ]]] [0, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:47:59. [0, joe]: oooooohhhhhhhhhyyyyyaaaaaaahhhhh [0, joe]: o [4, DrugSenseBot001]: o is for orange nuggies [0, joe]: rushing [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: i have to get more of thses orange nuggies into the ground.........so i dont run out between harvests [0, joe]: lol [7, ben]: By Andrew LaMar [7, ben]: CONTRA COSTA TIMESSACRAMENTO - Legislation that would ban certain dietarysupplements, herbs and drugs available over the counter from beingsold to children younger than 18 cleared a Senate committee onWednesday. [0, joe]: its that darn drying time that kills me...lol [11, Hobe]: lol [11, Hobe]: 35 seconds [11, Hobe]: In the micro :-( [0, joe]: :-( [8, BigBong]: just got a sign to lean on the mobile for a while [0, joe]: 6 weeks here [3, observer]: :-( [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: is the UN still trying to make it illegal for u to buy vitamin C ? [3, observer]: search is the UN still trying to make it illegal for u to buy vitamin C [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking on the net ... [4, DrugSenseBot001]: www.phrack.com/phrack/48/P48-02 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.phrack.com/phrack/48/P48-02 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Non Smokers' Update - Issue 11, March 96 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.nsma.org.au/update11.htm [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Vocabulary List For Breakfast At Tiffany's [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.cc.mie-u.ac.jp/~lq20100/breakfast.html [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Sporadic Dispatch #11 - China #3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.travel-library.com/rtw/absjnl/brosius_jnl/brosius11.html [3, observer]: phrack! hmmm [0, joe]: hang for about a week 2 to 3 weeks in a paper bag....when 3 to 4 weeks in a jar.......well i store in jars but i open the lid every day for about 15 minits [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." - Shakespeare [0, joe]: and its killer not smokin it when you open the jar [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 9:53:14 PM ET ] [11, Hobe]: Hmmmmmmm What's the humidity average around you? [11, Hobe]: 2-3 weeks in a paperbag seems kinda long to me. [0, joe]: it varys but i have a dehumidafire [0, joe]: lol [0, joe]: lmso [0, joe]: lmao [4, DrugSenseBot001]: lmao is leave my alphabet alone! [7, ben]: I always dried right after harvest, rather than risk mold. (Of course the Statute of Limitations has long expired.) [11, Hobe]: And then opening the lid 15 minutes every day for another month? Just opening jars to get the weed out to smoke, seems to dry mine too much sometimes. [3, observer]: [11, Hobe]: What I mean is, the bottom of the jar is usually dryer than the top. [0, joe]: well...it wiorks for me..........they smoke well.....burn forever......and look real pretty.......i drop the temp about 2 weeks before harvest and the color really comes out [8, BigBong]: super qwerty is in the hempbar [8, BigBong]: choking yup with emotion at reunion with some electrical configurations [0, joe]: after about a month you leave the lid on for about a week and the moisture evens out in the jar [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: lol @ ben statute of limitations [3, observer]: echelon [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Echelon is a name for the UKUSA, ANZUS; NSA eavesdropping program (SIGINT). See http://fas.org/irp/eprint/sp/ and http://cryptome.org/cryptout.htm#Echelon [11, Hobe]: "..it wiorks for me.." That's what counts. :-) [3, observer]: lol [0, joe]: lol [0, joe]: yup [8, BigBong]: super qwerty did the timbarra action, freedom ride [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: was flat lined last mardigrass with a chip problem [0, joe]: but its well worth the wait.....hehehe [8, BigBong]: but starred as the image for the "mainthruster" of the 2001 mardigrass webshow [0, joe]: hobe....try filling a bag with enough to last a while.....that way the jar stays closed and the buds dont dry out >> User mike comes in from adsl-66-122-50-55.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net at line 2. >> [2] mike left the chat. >> User mike comes in from adsl-66-122-50-55.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net at line 2. >> [2] mike left the chat. >> User mike comes in from adsl-66-122-50-55.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net at line 2. [3, observer]: wb mike [2, mike]: hi [4, DrugSenseBot001]: hi mike [2, mike]: ty [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ty is thank you [8, BigBong]: http://www.nimbinmardigrass.com/2001/mainthruster.jpg [3, observer]: Mike [8, BigBong]: superqwerty is http://www.nimbinmardigrass.com/2001/mainthruster.jpg [3, observer]: chill out [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [3, observer]: lol .... painted the umbrella too :-) [11, Hobe]: >Joe If I do that, the weed in the bag gets all smashed and ugly and dry. :-) [11, Hobe]: And I just don't like baggies. :) [3, observer]: _ [3, observer]: hey ... who did this site: peacebus.com [3, observer]: ? [3, observer]: BB ... was that you ? [0, joe]: well...if you treat the bag with a little respect......lol [0, joe]: use film containers [11, Hobe]: I use film containers. :-) [11, Hobe]: And half pint jars. [0, joe]: cool [0, joe]: me to [0, joe]: lol [3, observer]: peacebus [4, DrugSenseBot001]: peacebus is www.peacebus.com [3, observer]: ah ..... [0, joe]: i have a big arse pickle jar [0, joe]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: cannabis oil contains p-cymene,.0004%, melting point 177 -- AChE inhibitor, antibiotic... anti canidal AChE inhibitor [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 10:07:13 PM ET ] >> List of users in this channel (MAIN [0]) >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> [0] joe, group: 0 >> [1] Trippin, group: 0 >> [2] mike, group: 0 >> [3] observer, group: 0 >> [4] DrugSenseBot001, group: 0 >> [7] ben, group: 0 >> [8] BigBong, group: 0 >> [11] Hobe, group: 0 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> User 0001 comes in from warren-wilson.edu at line 5. [5, 0001]: legalize it [3, observer]: :-} [3, observer]: yeah [3, observer]: high w. [3, observer]: welcome [0, joe]: high guest [5, 0001]: no seriously, we need to stop oppresing people for personal decisions with no adverse effect on others [0, joe]: i aggree [5, 0001]: smoking weed, in the privacy of your own home, or merely possesing it, are perect examples [3, observer]: quot mark twain own body [3, observer]: quotE mark twain own body [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Now what I contend is that my body is my own, at least I have always so regarded it. If I do harm through my experimenting with it, it is I who suffers, not the state. - Mark Twain [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: quote genesis 1:29 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. -- Genesis 1:29 [0, joe]: ty bot [4, DrugSenseBot001]: yw human [3, observer]: guest [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Mike Barbitta of CHAMP (Californians Helping Alleviate Medical Problems) will be our special guest in the DrugSense Chat Room, Sunday, May 5, 2002 8:00PM EDT, 5:00 PM Pacific time. [8, BigBong]: raining again - or rather still [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1998 Keith Hellawell, a former chief constable, is appointed National Anti-Drugs Co-ordinator, or drugs 'tsar' and put in charge of the government's 10-year drugs' strategy. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 10:14:15 PM ET ] [5, 0001]: true, the main reasons the gov't doesn't wan tkids experimenting with psychedelics is becuase they fear such experimentation will promote anit-capitlist notions, primarily because the gov't effort to thwart drug use is out of a fear for non-compliance and a general desire to not put up with the governemtn's shit, all of which is trying to exploit you for all you're worth. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Harare, Oslo, Paris, Honolulu, Amsterdam, Prague, Johannesburg, Rome, Barcelona, Belgrade, Kiritimati, Berlin, Brussels, Stockholm, Budapest, Cairo, Madrid, Cape Town, Copenhagen, Vienna, Warsaw, Frankfurt, Zagreb, Geneva, Zürich (it is 4:15 there now) >> [5] 0001 left the chat. [8, BigBong]: if you look very closely at the bong onthe mobile [3, observer]: ''Psychological study of the heavily LSD-using population showed that they had changed in what was labeled the means-to-life index, preferring time for reflection and creative self-expression to traditional acquisition of material goods as a life goal.30 '' [8, BigBong]: towards the back where it rivets to the roof [8, BigBong]: you can see a flower [3, observer]: -- _Drug Hate_, David Sadofsky Baggins [8, BigBong]: which was placed there by a passerby [3, observer]: http://info.greenwood.com/books/0275959/0275959562.html [8, BigBong]: random act of kindness [3, observer]: :-) [8, BigBong]: fasten your seatbelts, me about to shift the focus of the cam slightly [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: ''The decision to prosecute is no longer a matter controlled by the people; the grand jury serves as a dumb and silent legitimating force providing the form of Constitutionalism while precluding the substance. Should any grand jury begin to recognize its public trust and obligation to critically say no to officials, it is summarily dismissed to be replaced by a prosecution-friendly group. [3, observer]: The criminal justice system is simply too busy, with over a million drug charges alone per year, to accept the quaint eccentricities of Constitutional justice. '' p.35-36 [3, observer]: [Drug Hate] [0, joe]: wow...BB....yellow [0, joe]: dont you think you should scrape the paint from the windows...lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Harare, Oslo, Paris, Honolulu, Amsterdam, Prague, Johannesburg, Rome, Barcelona, Belgrade, Kiritimati, Berlin, Brussels, Stockholm, Budapest, Cairo, Madrid, Cape Town, Copenhagen, Vienna, Warsaw, Frankfurt, Zagreb, Geneva, Zürich [3, observer]: quote drug use conformity [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [3, observer]: quote drug use conformity [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Studies suggest insight as to why conservatives have focused so much of their attention on drugs. One scaled 4-year-old children on an index of creativity and adventure seeking to find that such characteristics are the greatest predictor of recreational [4, DrugSenseBot001]: use of marijuana in subsequent high-school years. Drug users are perhaps by personality disposed to be the least obedient to orthodoxy and convention just as the orthodox are most disposed to believe that social rules must be reinforced with persecution [4, DrugSenseBot001]: of the non-conformists. . . . Rule lovers are in a constant effort to bring rule breakers to task, while rule breakers seek new horizons for their will to creative non-conformity. -- David Sadofsky Baggins [0, joe]: i wrote a song about it [0, joe]: hmmmmmmmmmmm [3, observer]: pg.98 ... a great book [3, observer]: _ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers." - Kikuyu Proverb [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 10:28:13 PM ET ] [0, joe]: cool ob [0, joe]: i like that one [0, joe]: rolled [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: police towing away the other unregistered car parked in street [3, observer]: vack [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :33:53. ]]] [0, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:34:19. [0, joe]: rush [0, joe]: rushing is basking in the glory of god [0, joe]: rushing [4, DrugSenseBot001]: rushing is basking in the glory of god [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: mmmmmmmmm [8, BigBong]: well that was fun [0, joe]: CHimPs [0, joe]: lol [8, BigBong]: and now me need beverage [0, joe]: what happened BB [8, BigBong]: police came and towed away a public nuisance vechile to cheers of the crowd [8, BigBong]: everyone good naturedly heckling them and giving instructions [3, observer]: :-/ [0, joe]: what is a public nuisance vechile [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking on the net ... [8, BigBong]: 'the ropes too long was the main refrain [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Advances In Closed Circuit TV * New Opportunities for RMR * ... [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.csaaul.org/LouFioreAM01Presentation.PDF [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Tour Description: 'Route 62' - 10 Day CT-PE [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://home.imaginet.co.za/ecoafrik/R%2062%2012%20Day%20CT-PE.htm [4, DrugSenseBot001]: UNB Law Journal Index [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://judge.lawlib.unb.ca/library/journal.php3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: contents [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/actionplan/fvctplan.pdf [8, BigBong]: brb [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 10:42:15 PM ET ] [3, observer]: How much for a Big Bong Bed n Breakfast at mardi Grass? >> [7] ben left the chat. [0, joe]: later ben [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: _ [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: flipped burgers :-) [0, joe]: BB what is a public nuisance vechile? >> [2] mike left the chat. [0, joe]: later mike >> User Richard comes in from 24.213.36.203.up.mi.chartermi.net at line 2. [8, BigBong]: a unregistered abandon car that street youth play soccer with after midnight [0, joe]: high richard [8, BigBong]: rolling back and forgth across the street [2, Richard]: Hi, everyone. [8, BigBong]: webgreetings richard [2, Richard]: Just checking to see if Jo-D was here. [3, observer]: high Richard [8, BigBong]: webgfreetings [3, observer]: she is recording ... she left a little after John Turmel made his appearance tonight >> Your new name is joint-turmoil (Line 8). [2, Richard]: Up to my neck in small problems to resolve.... [11, Hobe]: Hi Richard. [8, joint-turmoil]: so richard lake [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, joe]: BB why did you turn the sign around? [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: set [2, Richard]: OK, I may check back after a while. Was John his usual fun self? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: set is after ready [8, joint-turmoil]: just joking >> Your new name is BigBong (Line 8). [3, observer]: yes ... same old, Richard [3, observer]: lol [2, Richard]: *smile* [0, joe]: lol [8, BigBong]: ;O)--~ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.bigbongburgerbar.com/ [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [8, BigBong]: erk [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :50:19. ]]] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: erk is what BB types when he din't want the bot to say BigBong will rule the wwworld! [8, BigBong]: sorry i squidged the countdown [0, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:50:49. [0, joe]: no prob BB [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: the signs are drying [2, Richard]: And he wanted to be leader of the Canadian Marijuana Party? Leadership requires being everybody's friend, using a lot of honey. He has not a clue about leadership. [8, BigBong]: they are destined for peace park hemp olympics [0, joe]: cool [0, joe]: is the speer and the disks that they throw made of hemp???? [0, joe]: BB [4, DrugSenseBot001]: BB is a new "Da da." [2, Richard]: see you later >> [2] Richard left the chat. [0, joe]: later richard [8, BigBong]: no [0, joe]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. -- Thomas Carlyle [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 10:56:15 PM ET ] [0, joe]: is it a smoke out olympics BB [0, joe]: lol [8, BigBong]: me not sure, dint build this years mardigrass webspace [8, BigBong]: but am sure all deatails at www.nimbinmardigrass.com [8, BigBong]: is time for me to go into the sound proof booth at nimfm [0, joe]: BB the big yellow bong burger bar buggie looks bitchin......lol [8, BigBong]: wait till sh'e finished [8, BigBong]: a blank canvas [0, joe]: bumber about the umbrella...... :-( [8, BigBong]: is going to be rather dangerous inside the leaky mobile with all the qwertys me want to poke inside it [0, joe]: cool BB you go....i'll be watchin ya [0, joe]: lol [0, joe]: does it leak BB?? [11, Hobe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [8, BigBong]: as it says it webpage, it's first mission not for 27 hours 20 minutes from now ( the MMMMarch) [0, joe]: cool [8, BigBong]: takes less than 1 of those hours to totally repaint the car [0, joe]: lol [8, BigBong]: anyway, i must away [0, joe]: cool [8, BigBong]: will be back >> Your new name is BigBong_afk (Line 8). [8, BigBong_afk]: ;O)--~ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.bigbongburgerbar.com/ >> [11] Hobe left the chat. [3, observer]: erk [4, DrugSenseBot001]: erk is what BB types when he din't want the bot to say BigBong will rule the wwworld! [3, observer]: lol [0, joe]: lol [1, Trippin]: :-) [3, observer]: _ [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [0, joe]: stoned [4, DrugSenseBot001]: stoned again, joe ? [0, joe]: yup [0, joe]: all we need is love [3, observer]: er, I get high with a little help from my friends [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Government control over 'all sectors of a society' is the essence of the totalitarian state. -- Ayn Rand [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 11:10:13 PM ET ] [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [0, joe]: i smoke my stuff and drink all my wine [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Algiers, Anadyr, Kamchatka, Lagos, Lisbon, London, Dublin (it is 4:15 there now) [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [1, Trippin]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Trippin is ready, anyone else? [1, Trippin]: [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." - Mark Twain [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 11:17:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :17:27. ]]] [3, observer]: time [4, DrugSenseBot001]: the time is 5/2/02 11:19:20 PM ET, observer [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Algiers, Anadyr, Kamchatka, Lagos, Lisbon, London, Dublin [3, observer]: yikes [3, observer]: cleaning [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is cleaning now. [3, observer]: _ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1493 The use of tobacco is introduced into Europe by Columbus and his crew returning from America. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 11:24:14 PM ET ] [3, observer]: i wish I were in Nimbin now ... to see the before, the during, the after :-) [3, observer]: (Mardi Grass) [3, observer]: mapsearch Mardi Grass [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking at mapinc.org ... [0, joe]: me to [4, DrugSenseBot001]: US WA: PUB LTE: Grass vs Grog [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1562/a07.html 2001-08-25 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Australia: Smoke Dreams Under The Cosh [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1076/a07.html 2001-06-14 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Australia: Stress Arrives In Nimbin On Four Legs [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n858/a06.html 2001-05-15 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Australia: Oh, How They Danced-A High Old Time Was Had By All At [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n806/a03.html 2001-05-07 [0, joe]: BB who is the girl painting the sign???? [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: Australia: Stress Arrives In Nimbin On Four Legs [3, observer]: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n858/a06.html [3, observer]: :-(( [0, joe]: o^o [3, observer]: ''Police shut down Nimbin's Rainbow Cafe and Oasis Cafe for two hours yesterday while 35 officers and two drug sniffer dogs searched for drugs at the alleged "cannabis cafes". [3, observer]: The raids attracted hundreds of protesters who yelled abuse at police and said the raids were the result of recent media coverage of the policing of drugs in Nimbin. '' [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Whenever "A" attempts by law to impose his moral standards upon "B," "A" is most likely a scoundrel. -- H.L. Mencken [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 11:38:13 PM ET ] [3, observer]: ''Police shut down Nimbin's Rainbow Cafe and Oasis Cafe for two hours yesterday while 35 officers and two drug sniffer dogs searched for drugs at the alleged "cannabis cafes". [3, observer]: The raids attracted hundreds of protesters who yelled abuse at police and said the raids were the result of recent media coverage of the policing of drugs in Nimbin. . . . [1, Trippin]: Silence leads to jail .. Speak out for Pot [3, observer]: (%*#^^ [3, observer]: OOPS [3, observer]: ''When it became evident that large numbers of Danish Jews were escaping to Sweden by boats, the Germans used police dogs to sniff out human cargo aboard the ships. . . . ''' [3, observer]: ... To overcome this Danish scientist in Malmo concocted ... >> You have been kicked out cause you didn't say a word for a while ! >> Goodbye, cu ! +++Quit MELANGE> MELANGE> autologin: /nick BigBong 0 0 MELANGE> +OK [user] >> Melange Chat Server (V.2.02 B2,Drugsense Build), April 2002 Welcome ! (Type /HELP for a list of commands) [2, Will]: a friend of mine who is an electrical engineer made a vaporizer... when you hit it, it's like sucking pure air, no taste or anything. you taste the hit when you exhale. [3, observer]: wb bb [1, BigBong]: back from the airwaves and archives [0, joe]: wb BB [1, BigBong]: me waving at hempbnar webcam [2, Will]: they had an interesting show on PBS this evening about 20th century Arab history [0, joe]: cool [3, observer]: dual cams http://drugwarpropaganda.selfhost.com/cme/hbbb.html [1, BigBong]: actually i like the way they put the signs in front of the web cam [3, observer]: heh .. -) [2, Will]: the Arabs got one thing right... their laws don't prohibit cannabis [3, observer]: This year Mardi Grass will be fun even here :-) [2, Will]: they prohibit alcohol instead [3, observer]: joe, it depends on how the mullahs interpret their book ... [0, joe]: lol [0, joe]: true [0, joe]: same with any writtin word [0, joe]: lmao [4, DrugSenseBot001]: lmao is leave my alphabet alone! [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/2/02 11:59:13 PM ET ] [2, Will]: lmao is leave my ass alone [3, observer]: lol [0, joe]: lol [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? >> User 0001 comes in from adsl-33-99-63.asm.bellsouth.net at line 5. >> [5] 0001 is called FatFreddy now. [3, observer]: set [4, DrugSenseBot001]: set is after ready [0, joe]: wb FF [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :00:22. ]]] [5, FatFreddy]: Well it worked this time. Hifg All. [0, joe]: top of the hour :-( [3, observer]: high FF! >> User observers_bird comes in from user-uiveqs4.dsl.mindspring.com at line 7. [7, observers_bird]: [0, joe]: oosp :-) [7, observers_bird]: test [0, joe]: lol [7, observers_bird]: lol [0, joe]: rushing [4, DrugSenseBot001]: rushing is basking in the glory of god >> [7] observers_bird left the chat. [0, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:01:03. [0, joe]: ooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaa [2, Will]: lmaaiwsajwgb = leave my ass alone I wanna smoke a joint without getting busted [3, observer]: lol [0, joe]: lol @ will [2, Will]: my fav... dilligaf = does it look like I give a fuck [5, FatFreddy]: What a day My sons roomate got arrested and spent the day in jail. So it has been fun. I have to leave at noon tomorrow to go to Cher & Brians house to be at the MMM on Saturday. [3, observer]: _ [2, Will]: what he get busted for? [3, observer]: :[-( [1, BigBong]: me gunna try and slap on a coat of paint [0, joe]: cool [5, FatFreddy]: She got busted for driveing on a supended Drivers Lic. And running a stop sign. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "Strategic PSYOP proved to be the instrument through which the U.S. and Coalition Forces were successfully able to isolate the enemy and deny him acceptance by the world community." -- General Carl Stiner, Former CINCSOC [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 12:06:13 AM ET ] [2, Will]: stupid stuff huh? if your license is suspended, don't drive, and if you can't avoid driving, at least obey the traffic laws. [2, Will]: STOP = squeal tires on pavement [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: ouch [5, FatFreddy]: Well That happens to the best of us at times I think there were a lot of young people learning when I was there age as well Will. >> User 0001 comes in from 0-1pool131-66.nas2.chicago1.il.us.da.qwest.net at line 7. >> [7] 0001 is called giggles now. [2, Will]: hi giggles [3, observer]: (((giggles))) [5, FatFreddy]: High Giggles [7, giggles]: hi everyone [0, joe]: high giggles [4, DrugSenseBot001]: cannabis oil contains: 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) .001% melting point 156 -- Anti inflamatory Bronchiodilator stimulant antibiotic antineoplastic AChE inhibitor. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 12:13:14 AM ET ] >> User Richard comes in from 24.213.36.203.up.mi.chartermi.net at line 8. [2, Will]: hi Richard [3, observer]: wb Richard [8, Richard]: Hi, everyone. [0, joe]: wb richard [8, Richard]: I guess Jo-D is still working on stuff. [2, Will]: last time we chatted richard, I didn't get a chance to tell you about the project I'm preparing for next year. [8, Richard]: The Kzar's OPED 'The Myth of 'Harmless' Marijuana' appeared in two FL papers today. [2, Will]: I'm raising the money this year to tour Michigan during the PRA petition drive next year with a hemp fueled motorcycle. [8, Richard]: Project, Will? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Reykjavik, Suva, Casablanca, Wellington (it is 4:15 there now) [8, Richard]: That is interesting. You could get a bunch of press that way, for sure. [8, Richard]: Along with quips like "do you suck the exhaust" [2, Will]: lol [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: I want to hit all the major agricultural parts of the state so the farmers can see what hemp can do [8, Richard]: Mostly grow trees in Yooper land. [2, Will]: yeah [8, Richard]: But it hides the stills. [2, Will]: I'm down here 1/2 hour SW of Lansing in Cornfield County [3, observer]: gives "hit the road" a whole new meaning [3, observer]: :-} [2, Will]: actually it's Eaton County, but there's cornfields every where you go around here [8, Richard]: I think the only agricultural product exported from Yooper land is mushrooms. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Reykjavik, Suva, Casablanca, Wellington [2, Will]: I get some good organic beef out of the UP now and then [8, Richard]: Well, then there is all the deer meat, legal, illegal, and road kill [3, observer]: lol >> User 0001 comes in from wayn-cs01-t79.citlink.net at line 9. >> [9] 0001 is called nowhereman now. [3, observer]: high nowhereman [9, nowhereman]: hello [8, Richard]: If I had a car that could kill deer without damage I could get one every time I drive outside the city. [8, Richard]: Hi, nowhereman! How are you. Do you live in nowhereland? [2, Will]: I have a friend in Lansing who has a brother with a beef ranch in the UP... he brings back a freezer full of beef almost every time he goes up there [9, nowhereman]: deer are bad here to its like playing a dodging game after dark when driving [9, nowhereman]: yea i live in nowhere....way back in the boonies [2, Will]: me too nowhereman [8, Richard]: Some think I do, too. I live in Yooperland [9, nowhereman]: i just browsed in, [9, nowhereman]: actually live in west virginia [3, observer]: _ [8, Richard]: This is kind of a fun place where a lot of activists come to relax a little and just chat. [9, nowhereman]: thats nice to know [9, nowhereman]: i cant remember how i got this link [8, Richard]: For several years I had a job that took me all over WV every week. Beautiful country, but I was nearly did in on coal hall roads more than once.... [2, Will]: oh da second week of deer camp is da greatest time of year / we drink, play cards and shoot da bull, but never shoot no deer / the only time we leave da camp is when we go for beer / da second week of deer camp is da greatest time of year [3, observer]: probably here: mapinc.org or here: drugsense.org [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [7, giggles]: [9, nowhereman]: so what are into tonight [7, giggles]: [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. " -- Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle [8, Richard]: Trying to figure out what giggles is doing.... [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 12:27:12 AM ET ] [2, Will]: me too Richard [9, nowhereman]: hehehe she gigling [9, nowhereman]: must feel good [2, Will]: lol [8, Richard]: We also have a robot. She is called bot. She is smart and in love with HALL. [9, nowhereman]: a BOT [2, Will]: bot [4, DrugSenseBot001]: yes, Will? [9, nowhereman]: like acomputor? [8, Richard]: You can ask her questions. [2, Will]: dance bot [8, Richard]: Who is Richard? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: richard is one of THE bedrock roomies [4, DrugSenseBot001]: roomies is an apt title for this cyber assembly [9, nowhereman]: cool [2, Will]: mmm [4, DrugSenseBot001]: mmm is the Million Marijuana March and also, the Michigan Marijuana Movement [9, nowhereman]: i know a dude from michingan into the movement [9, nowhereman]: plays in bad [9, nowhereman]: band [2, Will]: what's the name of the band? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking on the net ... [8, Richard]: Super [2, Will]: belay [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Will, I will belay that command. [9, nowhereman]: mossytwyne [9, nowhereman]: he goes ny river [9, nowhereman]: by the name River [8, Richard]: Who is mossytwyne [2, Will]: cool... I was at the same 4/20 party they were at [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Looking on the net ... [4, DrugSenseBot001]: MAZ Index [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://members.tm.net/mikez550/ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: The Green House - Guest Book [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.greenhouseonline.org/guestbook/guestbook.html [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Mossy Twyne [4, DrugSenseBot001]: http://www.michiganartists.com/bands/mossytwyne.htm [9, nowhereman]: cool man thats probly them [5, FatFreddy]: :(---~ [0, joe]: :-) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [9, nowhereman]: i like that BOT [2, Will]: they played at 420 @ The Forum in Detroit Richard [9, nowhereman]: he siad they was gonna try to [8, Richard]: That was the one Dan did, Will? [2, Will]: yeah [2, Will]: it was a shame Budda fulla rhymes couldn't make it [8, Richard]: Know if they ever did the Rainbow Farm? It is not like I remember all the groups. [9, nowhereman]: i dont get to go out to them rally's [2, Will]: they were busy recording a CD on 4/20 [9, nowhereman]: so just are you people in michigan? or near? [2, Will]: I never saw them at Rainbow Farm, but I only went there 3 times before the raid [8, Richard]: When I think about the Rainbow Farm I just want to cry [2, Will]: just Richard and I are from Michigan [8, Richard]: We get folks in here from all over the world. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "While seeking revenge, dig two graves - one for yourself. " -- Doug Horton [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 12:34:13 AM ET ] [2, Will]: I've done a lot of that too Richard [9, nowhereman]: dont mean to sound dum but im on imformed what have ,to ands what was rianbow farm>? [2, Will]: toss the kid an url Richard [9, nowhereman]: shit im buzzing,,,,, what did theydo like riad it [7, giggles]: [5, FatFreddy]: I'm makeing up Business cards for Sarurday> Folks we are going to nave a great Liberation Day May $th. [8, Richard]: www.rainbowfarmcamp.com >> [5] FatFreddy left the chat. [2, Will]: I figured you'd give him the Washington Post article >> [7] giggles left the chat. >> You have been kicked out cause you didn't say a word for a while ! >> Goodbye, cu ! +++Quit MELANGE> MELANGE> autologin: /nick BigBong 0 0 MELANGE> +OK [user] >> Melange Chat Server (V.2.02 B2,Drugsense Build), April 2002 Welcome ! (Type /HELP for a list of commands) [8, Richard]: There are funders with no ties to Soros at all who would step forward if you had a poll to prove PRA could pass. I am sorry, Will, that you don't consider all the options, and just want to burn out grassroots activists. [3, observer]: high BB [1, BigBong]: got last coat of paint on ;O0--~ [1, BigBong]: have to go wash brushes... [2, Will]: who are these funders, and why haven't they come forward with their funding proposals requesting a poll? [3, observer]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope. -- Gilbert Shelton [The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, circa 1970.] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 1:09:13 AM ET ] [3, observer]: BB ... I'm gonna use my bubbler, just on account of the BB Mobile [3, observer]: :-} [2, Will]: we've asked several of the known sources of funding for drug law reform about funding PRA and they've never say anything about doing a poll [3, observer]: lol [8, Richard]: Will, you have to write the grant requests. Just like I told Greg, you also have to get to know and talk with these folks. I talked with several at the NORML conference. I am not going to suggest names unless you are serious about considering the polls. But if you are, email me saying so, outlining what you want to do, and I will get it to possible funders. [2, Will]: well, so far, anecdotally, I can tell you that the public needs more education about industrial hemp and asset forfeiture [2, Will]: as far as decrim and med mj go, it's a landslide for PRA [0, joe]: + [8, Richard]: Perhaps not, but they and I do discuss what they would like to see before they give up $$$. Alaska taught them a lesson. So they are very interested in finding out what the possibilities are. Polls are very low cost in terms of what they think of in actually supporting an initiative. Polls a few thousand, initiatives hundreds of thousands of dollars. [1, BigBong]: phewww [1, BigBong]: does it look yellower? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Vladivostok (it is 4:15 there now) [8, Richard]: We don't know that. You don't. Nobody does. There is no voter research for Michigan that shows that at all. [1, BigBong]: cool thing is the outside area that needs be done for MMMM is dry already [1, BigBong]: gotta love that sun [1, BigBong]: he said as a cloud appeared [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Other men's sins are before our eyes; our own are behind our backs. - Seneca [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 1:16:14 AM ET ] [2, Will]: PRA has barely spent $10,000 in the past 2 years, thanks to volunteers, rather than paid petitioners forging signatures to make more money [2, Will]: I learned that trick when I worked for Clean Water Action [3, observer]: are they paid for ones collected ... or ones that are accepted? [2, Will]: they're paid as they're collected [3, observer]: that sucks if they are able to cheat like that [8, Richard]: Whatever, Will. I appreciate the volunteers very much, and you know that. That is a big part of my concern. I don't know how you can look them in the eye and say, 'lets do it again' when you don't know that a third try will not have the same results as the last to. [2, Will]: CWA paid petitioners would go thru the phone book and forge signatures, hoping that everyone in the phone book was a registered voter. [2, Will]: CWA caught on and filed a FOIA request with the state for a copy of the QVF on cd-rom [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Vladivostok [8, Richard]: We have an editor at MAP who is making a living as a paid petitioner. I don't approve of cheating, but trying to make a little money supporting something you believe in is not simply wrong. Folks have to find a way to live, too. [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [8, Richard]: After all, Tom and Rollie were doing exactly that. [2, Will]: there are cheaters in almost every petition drive that uses paid petitioners [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joes is ready, i bet [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, i bet [0, joe]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;-] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: lol [8, Richard]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Richard is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 3 [1, BigBong]: rolling [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 1 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [[[ ignition! at T = :23:17. ]]] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: BigBong is rolling now. [3, observer]: lol [0, joe]: exhale [4, DrugSenseBot001]: joe exhaled. T=:23:56. [3, observer]: _ [2, Will]: no, there's nothing wrong with earning money doing something you believe in. However, the money one earns as a paid petitioner shouldn't exceed the expenses involved in petitioning... I'd rather see petitioners save receipts for their expenses and turn them in with their signatures. [2, Will]: PRA after all, is a non-profit organization [8, Richard]: Non-profit does not mean that you can't have folks working for you making a living wage, though most do not pay well. [8, Richard]: It just means that you can have volunteers that are not paid. [8, Richard]: When a for-profit company gets someone to do volunteer work, they get in big trouble, and should. AOL found that out when they tried to have volunteers run their chat rooms. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "The average man votes below himself; he votes with half a mind or a hundredth part of one. A man ought to vote with the whole of himself, as he worships or gets married..." - G. K. Chesterton [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 1:30:13 AM ET ] [2, Will]: I believe your treatment initiative is paying $0.75 per signature. [8, Richard]: Good, that is better than they were paying in FL. [2, Will]: there's another initiative here in Michigan that's totally unrelated to drug law reform that's paying over $1 per sig. [0, joe]: + [8, Richard]: If PRA had been ready, you could have encouraged folks to carry several initiatives, including PRA, and make money while getting signatures. My friend in FL works several, paid and unpaid, at the same time, and has a ball. He sizes up a person for what they will most likely sign first, then goes for the rest. [8, Richard]: But he does not do ones he does not believe in. [0, joe]: i'm going to bed [0, joe]: later all [2, Will]: we're only doing PRA petition drives years that end in odd numbers, because in order to make it on the ballot before the general election, you have to have all your signatures turned in to the election board no later than 100 days before election day [8, Richard]: Will, this has been a good discussion. I have to go now. I do hope we can find some common ground. I think you need to reconsider your position on our current initiative, and I will be more open minded about PRA. [0, joe]: peace [4, DrugSenseBot001]: peace joe >> [0] joe left the chat. [2, Will]: that means getting volunteers to go out and petition in January [8, Richard]: goodnight, bb, Will, ob, and Bot [1, BigBong]: rain [4, DrugSenseBot001]: rain is nowhere in sight for us :( [1, BigBong]: g'night richard [8, Richard]: Not sure I would like to petition in January. But there are possibilities worth considering, Will. [1, BigBong]: rain is everywhere here bot >> [8] Richard left the chat. [1, BigBong]: thankfully the sun mostly dried the paint, is gunna be a close run thing [1, BigBong]: already pictures of mobile appearing in local media [2, Will]: you can't do a ballot initiative in Michigan during an election year withoug petitioning in the dead of winter [2, Will]: without* [2, Will]: brb... munchies [3, observer]: _ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1971 President Nixon declares that "America's Public Enemy No. 1 is drug abuse." In a message to Congress, the President calls for the creation of a Special Action Office of Drug Abuse Prevention. [The New Public Enemy No. 1, *Time*, June 28, 1971, p. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 18] [ 5/3/02 1:44:14 AM ET ] [2, Will]: back [4, DrugSenseBot001]: wb Will [3, observer]: wb :-) [2, Will]: I think Richard's excuse for not supporting PRA is lame... I know he agrees with everything we're trying to accomplish... he just wants to turn us into politics as usual [2, Will]: we're not, and never will be politics as usual [3, observer]: he doesn't think you'll make it this year? [2, Will]: we're not doing a petition drive until next year [3, observer]: hmmm [3, observer]: it looks pretty good to me [2, Will]: we only do our petition drives during odd-numbered years because when there's a general election in Michigan, all ballot initiative committees must turn in their signatures to the election board no later than 100 days before the election. In an election year, that means starting the petition drive in the middle of January at the latest [3, observer]: :-( [3, observer]: the politicians, once in power HATE the idea of allowing the rabble to vote directly like that [4, DrugSenseBot001]: cannabis oil contains p-cymene,.0004%, melting point 177 -- AChE inhibitor, antibiotic... anti canidal AChE inhibitor [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 1:58:13 AM ET ] [2, Will]: the last successful volunteer-driven ballot initiative in Michigan was a proposal to require the state to allocate funds to counties and municipalities for running state mandated agencies and programs. Prior to the passage of that initiative, the legislators would vote to create a program or agency administered at the county or municipal level, and wouldn't bother to create a budget for it. [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: the father of the man behind PRA was the one responsible for that initiative [3, observer]: hmmm [2, Will]: Alan Schmid and Dick Headly co-wrote the Headly Tax Amendment initiative, and now Greg Schmid is following in his father's footsteps by organizing another all-volunteer initiative. [3, observer]: that is good ... experience >> User Icy comes in from ts010d01.sea-wa.concentric.net at line 0. >> [0] Icy is called Ivy now. [0, Ivy]: can't spell [2, Will]: lol [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: (((Ivy))) [0, Ivy]: :) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;] [3, observer]: _ [3, observer]: i'm downloading Cygwin ... unix-look-alike stuff ... there are free lisp, prolog and macsyma packages [0, Ivy]: Just told my sis about the tattoos :) [3, observer]: lol [4, DrugSenseBot001]: "The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp" - Terry Pratchett [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 2:05:12 AM ET ] [3, observer]: uh oh ... will your mom know soon? [2, Will]: lol @ that quote [0, Ivy]: OH FUCK NO [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: hmmm [2, Will]: rolling [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Will is rolling now. [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: twisting up my bedtime joint after I get rid of all these damn stems and seeds [0, Ivy]: =] [3, observer]: Ivy mocks seeds ... she laughs at stems!! [0, Ivy]: hehehe [0, Ivy]: Ivy's just a potsnob. [3, observer]: "ha ha," shes says ,.. "I have THUNDERFUCK" [3, observer]: lol [0, Ivy]: :) [4, DrugSenseBot001]: ;] >> [0] Ivy left the chat. >> You have been kicked out cause you didn't say a word for a while ! >> Goodbye, cu ! +++Quit MELANGE> MELANGE> autologin: /nick BigBong 0 0 MELANGE> +OK [user] >> Melange Chat Server (V.2.02 B2,Drugsense Build), April 2002 Welcome ! (Type /HELP for a list of commands) [1, BigBong]: doink [2, Will]: lol [1, BigBong]: multitasking whilst webcasting [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 1912 MDMA first synthesised by German company Merck Pharmaceuticals. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 2:12:13 AM ET ] [2, Will]: germans invented methadone too [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [4, DrugSenseBot001]: i'm lagging [3, observer]: wb BB [0, Ivy]: Hey Obie...Did you ever see my new and improved logo....It's even and balanced ;) [2, Will]: Farben Pharmaceuticals invented methadone as a synthetic opiate when Nazi Germany got its opium supply cut off by WW2 [3, observer]: :-) will check it out, Ivy [1, BigBong]: 4 minutes and 420 seconds until [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Get ready! It is *almost* 4:20 in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Nimbin (it is 4:15 there now) [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: looks good ... balanced and clever [0, Ivy]: You know what? Want to know what my favorite mem. of San Fran was? ...anyone?... [3, observer]: ?? [2, Will]: sure, why not [0, Ivy]: Okay...give me a second to straigten my thoughts and type it! [1, BigBong]: this 4.20 is our special toke off [1, BigBong]: me and dave anyway [3, observer]: lol [2, Will]: dave's not here [0, Ivy]: On sunday Mikki and Chris' party. All the boys went outside to smoke and drink. All the girls (well, most) stayed in the kitchen to prepare the food. It was so beautifully-sexually-biased that it was communily groovy...Dig? [3, observer]: whoa .. BIG power spike [3, observer]: good thing i have a UPS [3, observer]: groovy baby [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms. -- Groucho Marx [2, Will]: groovy [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 2:19:13 AM ET ] [4, DrugSenseBot001]: groovy is full of groove [0, Ivy]: :) I thought it was fun. I enjoyed myself. Meril instinctively opened a beer outside :) hhehee [4, DrugSenseBot001]: It's now 4:20 in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Nimbin [3, observer]: ready [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is ready, anyone else? [3, observer]: countdown [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 5 [2, Will]: Meril and I stood next to each other on the steps of the U of M Library overlooking the Diag at Hash Bash [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 4 3 [4, DrugSenseBot001]: 2 1 [[[ ignition! at T = :21:38. ]]] [0, Ivy]: Meril [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Meril is a Big-Brother-Goddess [0, Ivy]: Meril [0, Ivy]: oops [4, DrugSenseBot001]: Meril is a Big-Brother-Goddess [4, DrugSenseBot001]: i'm lagging [4, DrugSenseBot001]: observer is dowloading stuff now [0, Ivy]: That's okay, bot [2, Will]: he and Barndog were wearing their blue Hemp Fest staff shirts, so Dan Solano recruited them to hold a banner for PDLR up at the top of the steps. [3, observer]: lol [3, observer]: _ [2, Will]: PDLR is Police for Drug Law Reform [0, Ivy]: I wasn't a fan of the blue shirts. Badges aren't the best thing for pothead volunteers. power trip and all. [3, observer]: lol [0, Ivy]: I'm serious. Some people actaully thought they were more importnant than the average joe because they had a badge on their fucking shirt! [0, Ivy]: It sucked. [3, observer]: :-\ [4, DrugSenseBot001]: March 2002 The picture of Rachel Whitear, a 21-year-old heroin addict dead from an overdose, is used across the British press, igniting the public debate over shock campaigns in drug prevention. [4, DrugSenseBot001]: [ 5/3/02 2:26:15 AM ET ] [1, BigBong]: obs has my web cam stalled? [2, Will]: at our first mmm in Lansing, we had "Peace Police" t-shirts for the volunteer staff... they were white shirts with a star-type sheriff's badge on them with a peace symbol in the center [3, observer]: dont have it on ... d/l stuff [0, Ivy]: Ours had the pot leaf. [0, Ivy]: I'm a fan of the bright red shirts from 2000 that jst said STAFF in big letters, and hempfest in smaller. [1, BigBong]: s'ok got it back again, dumped me cache in exploder [3, observer]: lol [1, BigBong]: me need to reeboot [1, BigBong]: brb >> Goodbye, cu ! +++Quit